Rex Murphy is so right about what it all comes down to.
"Some of the principal scientists behave as if the own the very question of global warming when they seek to bar opposing research from peer reviewed journals to embargo journals they can't control, when they urge each other to delete damaging e-mails before freedom of information takes hold, when they talk of 'hiding the decline', when they actually speak of destroying the primary data, when now we do learn that the primary data has been lost or destroyed. They've lost the raw data on which all the models, all the computer generated forecasts, graphs and projections are based. We wouldn't accept that at a grade 9 science fair."
"These e-mails display one thing beyond all else. That climate science and global warming advocacy have become so entwined, so meshed into a mutant creature that separating alarmism from investigation, ideology from science, agenda from empirical study is, well, impossible"
"Climate science needs its own reset button."
"Some of the principal scientists behave as if the own the very question of global warming when they seek to bar opposing research from peer reviewed journals to embargo journals they can't control, when they urge each other to delete damaging e-mails before freedom of information takes hold, when they talk of 'hiding the decline', when they actually speak of destroying the primary data, when now we do learn that the primary data has been lost or destroyed. They've lost the raw data on which all the models, all the computer generated forecasts, graphs and projections are based. We wouldn't accept that at a grade 9 science fair."
"These e-mails display one thing beyond all else. That climate science and global warming advocacy have become so entwined, so meshed into a mutant creature that separating alarmism from investigation, ideology from science, agenda from empirical study is, well, impossible"
"Climate science needs its own reset button."


Following some of Hugo's comments in your previous blog entry, I did some more research on the climate science, including watching the whole of the documentary he suggested. I realised for the first time what some of the important weaknesses in the AGW theory were.
ReplyDeleteI found www.climateaudit.org by Stephen McIntyre, contained convincing critiques of some aspects of the AGW hypothesis.
One important area of debate is whether the Medieval Warm Period (MWP) was (on a global basis) warmer than today. This seems to be important because if during the MWP, temperatures were higher than todays, why didn't that cross a proposed tipping point where massive amounts (compared to man-made emissions) of CO2 was released from oceans etc. causing the runaway global warming the 'warmists' are so worried about?
Here, and here are another couple of links that lend support to this being highly questionable.
Dendroclimatology seems a fascinating aspect of the science. I haven't yet found a convincing reason why tree ring data from the past few decades was excluded from the 1000 year temperature reconstruction, and yet is expected to provide an accurate temperature proxy over the previous 1000 years.
Can anyone shed any light on this?
Lina, I'm currently reading Politcal Ponerology, it's challenging, but a really good book. It talks about how society can be transformed from a normal state into one where black is passed off as white, and pathocracy (rule by the psychopaths) reigns. The author addresses psychopathy as a problem for society. Not one it can eliminate through hatred or violence, as a certain small percentage of humans are born with the problem, but one we must learn how to live with, and keep under control. It's the best non-fiction book I've read in a long time - just thought I'd mention it.
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ReplyDeleteI am glad that you take the time to do some research. Unfortunately, I fear that you put too much "faith" in blogs that you run into over the web...
There's nothing wrong with reading them; but if you want to do an honest research you need to look a bit further and see where they get their info from.
For now (since I am at work) I just want to show you the reaction of Nature magazine, and
what they had to say about the "Climategate" issue.
Ask yourself, without even taking the time to look at the details, who would you trust first? Blogs? OR one of the most trusted peer-reviewed science journal?
cheers,
Stolen e-mails have revealed no scientific conspiracy, but do highlight ways in which climate researchers could be better supported in the face of public scrutiny.
The e-mail archives stolen last month from the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia (UEA), UK, have been greeted by the climate-change-denialist fringe as a propaganda windfall (see page 551). To these denialists, the scientists' scathing remarks about certain controversial palaeoclimate reconstructions qualify as the proverbial 'smoking gun': proof that mainstream climate researchers have systematically conspired to suppress evidence contradicting their doctrine that humans are warming the globe.
This paranoid interpretation would be laughable were it not for the fact that obstructionist politicians in the US Senate will probably use it next year as an excuse to stiffen their opposition to the country's much needed climate bill. Nothing in the e-mails undermines the scientific case that global warming is real — or that human activities are almost certainly the cause. That case is supported by multiple, robust lines of evidence, including several that are completely independent of the climate reconstructions debated in the e-mails.
First, Earth's cryosphere is changing as one would expect in a warming climate. These changes include glacier retreat, thinning and areal reduction of Arctic sea ice, reductions in permafrost and accelerated loss of mass from the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets. Second, the global sea level is rising. The rise is caused in part by water pouring in from melting glaciers and ice sheets, but also by thermal expansion as the oceans warm. Third, decades of biological data on blooming dates and the like suggest that spring is arriving earlier each year.
Denialists often maintain that these changes are just a symptom of natural climate variability. But when climate modellers test this assertion by running their simulations with greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide held fixed, the results bear little resemblance to the observed warming. The strong implication is that increased greenhouse-gas emissions have played an important part in recent warming, meaning that curbing the world's voracious appetite for carbon is essential.
Mail trail
ReplyDeleteA fair reading of the e-mails reveals nothing to support the denialists' conspiracy theories. In one of the more controversial exchanges, UEA scientists sharply criticized the quality of two papers that question the uniqueness of recent global warming (S. McIntyre and R. McKitrick Energy Environ. 14, 751–771; 2003 and W. Soon and S. Baliunas Clim. Res. 23, 89–110; 2003) and vowed to keep at least the first paper out of the upcoming Fourth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). Whatever the e-mail authors may have said to one another in (supposed) privacy, however, what matters is how they acted. And the fact is that, in the end, neither they nor the IPCC suppressed anything: when the assessment report was published in 2007 it referenced and discussed both papers.
If there are benefits to the e-mail theft, one is to highlight yet again the harassment that denialists inflict on some climate-change researchers, often in the form of endless, time-consuming demands for information under the US and UK Freedom of Information Acts. Governments and institutions need to provide tangible assistance for researchers facing such a burden.
The e-mail theft also highlights how difficult it can be for climate researchers to follow the canons of scientific openness, which require them to make public the data on which they base their conclusions. This is best done via open online archives, such as the ones maintained by the IPCC (http://www.ipcc-data.org) and the US National Climatic Data Center (http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html).
Tricky business
ReplyDeleteBut for much crucial information the reality is very different. Researchers are barred from publicly releasing meteorological data from many countries owing to contractual restrictions. Moreover, in countries such as Germany, France and the United Kingdom, the national meteorological services will provide data sets only when researchers specifically request them, and only after a significant delay. The lack of standard formats can also make it hard to compare and integrate data from different sources. Every aspect of this situation needs to change: if the current episode does not spur meteorological services to improve researchers' ease of access, governments should force them to do so.
The stolen e-mails have prompted queries about whether Nature will investigate some of the researchers' own papers. One e-mail talked of displaying the data using a 'trick' — slang for a clever (and legitimate) technique, but a word that denialists have used to accuse the researchers of fabricating their results. It is Nature's policy to investigate such matters if there are substantive reasons for concern, but nothing we have seen so far in the e-mails qualifies.
The UEA responded too slowly to the eruption of coverage in the media, but deserves credit for now being publicly supportive of the integrity of its scientists while also holding an independent investigation of its researchers' compliance with Britain's freedom of information requirements (see http://go.nature.com/zRBXRP).
In the end, what the UEA e-mails really show is that scientists are human beings — and that unrelenting opposition to their work can goad them to the limits of tolerance, and tempt them to act in ways that undermine scientific values. Yet it is precisely in such circumstances that researchers should strive to act and communicate professionally, and make their data and methods available to others, lest they provide their worst critics with ammunition. After all, the pressures the UEA e-mailers experienced may be nothing compared with what will emerge as the United States debates a climate bill next year, and denialists use every means at their disposal to undermine trust in scientists and science.